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pamalla
pamalla
2 years ago

how does andrew get away with his crap!

Fangirl
Fangirl
2 years ago
Reply to  pamalla

Hopefully he is gone for good. I feel sick just listening to him.

Joi
Joi
2 years ago
Reply to  pamalla

Neuro Linguistic deescalation 🙂

EnglishRose
EnglishRose
9 months ago
Reply to  Joi

Translation, please?

Lola
Lola
2 years ago
Reply to  pamalla

Honestly the way everyone was eating up Andrew’s words are comical

Pooli
Pooli
2 years ago

fed up with this show promoting abusers

Lisa
Lisa
2 years ago

Now Olivia is a relationship Pro?? After 2weeks of good loving? MIND YOUR BUSINESS OLIVIA!!! How dare she say that about & to Holly!!! Smh

Peach
Peach
2 years ago

I am so disappointed with the group with standing Up for Andrew before hearing Holly. They did it to Anthony and he Anthony joined in and did it to Holly. SMH. The women I thought would have been more understanding but group pressure is something else. ….Group Think!!! Andrew did a pretty good job as a motivational speaker! Even the emotional side of it. Wouldn’t hire him though !
He would cut your throat then convinces you to say thanks or apologise to him. Lol

Lola
Lola
2 years ago
Reply to  Peach

It’s the fact that this is a group of GROWN women acting like they are children, and have no sense to actually think about their actions and words. Ganging up on Holly like they are in a relationship with her. SMH actually disgusted

Juliet
Juliet
2 years ago

I am PISSED

Mark
Mark
2 years ago

WTF is happening at the beginning of this dinner party!
Andrew is a complete prick that in the states would have got his ass whipped for dating the shit that came out of his mouth! These people have all lost my respect!
Andrew is the biggest narcissistic A- hole!

Peach
Peach
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Andrew is just being the typical narcissistic American with the gift of gab. He flaunted the fact that he was Texan, like a badge of honour! I m neither an American or Australian … but I’m wondering “couldn’t the experts find a more sensible Australian who truly wanted to find love?” Is this diversity in show biz? …. Talking about diversity …what about Mitch??

Jerae
Jerae
2 years ago
Reply to  Peach

not all-American men are like Andrew, and they don’t all act like that just because they come from Texas. Perhaps they sought out this despicable example to make American men from Texas look bad. Just saying, as it seemed to work with some believers like you. so sorry but it’s a twist on reality with all kinds of lowlifes playacting. Not all but some for sure.
what about Mitch by the way..?

Joanie
Joanie
2 years ago

Andtew is a master manipulator. He talks a great game, saying all the right things. He’s also very quick to turn on the waterworks to garner sympathy. What an absolute twat.

Bimal
Bimal
2 years ago

While I don’t like Andrew much, i do believe Holly has made this into a bigger situation. Andrew is doing what is right for the cameras to portray himself in a positive manner. However Holly acted like a child in that episode. First ignores him 3 times, then moves her chair away from Andrew at the dinner table. If that’s not enough, at the end she says he just left her standing by walking out. I mean, come on! You have a commitment ceremony tomorrow. You are both going to say ‘leave’ so just be the bigger person. You don’t… Read more »

LisaEss
LisaEss
2 years ago
Reply to  Bimal

I’m kind of over this “be the bigger person” thing. In instances like this, where he was absolutely horrible to her, between telling her he had better sex with a one no night stand and calling her a narcissist, and just his general superior attitude, I don’t think she needs to sit next to him or talk to him anymore. It feels a little like toxic positivity to me. She doesn’t owe someone who’s been an absolute dick to her anything. I think if I were in her situation, I might try and announce as calmly as possible, no, I… Read more »

Richa
Richa
2 years ago
Reply to  Bimal

Wow! You really don’t get it do you?? This guy is much more than a narcissist…..he is a psychopath! Holly really should leave before he damages her even more!! He went into that dinner party with a perfect plan to get the group to sympathise with him by getting them on his side, shed some crocodile tears etc then it’s win win for him!! You say Holly acted like a child?? Are you kidding!!!! The woman is traumatised and has been subjected to mental abuse by this psychopath!! She is doing well under the circumstances to be in the same… Read more »

Bimal
Bimal
2 years ago
Reply to  Richa

Sounds like you know Andrew well. Holly appears to be mentally unstable already. I really do hope the producers gave her some help after she left. Writing a long letter to the other couples? Why is this person so affected by rejection? Olivia and Jackson rightly pointed Holly out. If someone wants to be a psychopath or has an agenda, be the bigger person. Watching that commitment ceremony on Sunday was so uncomfortable. She needs support. Placing so much pressure on finding the right man, wanting to marry on a reality show, wanting a child immediately. That’s a lot for… Read more »

Peach
Peach
2 years ago
Reply to  Bimal

Wow ! Sounds like you know Holly well too! It seems you also know Andrew more than well. LOl. You are obviously speaking from a man’s perspective. Your experience on the challenge of taking on all of what Holly had put out, would probably help Holly during your intervention with her. Andrew would just have ‘gaslighted’ her if she had allowed him to speak! Before you give Andrew some more support and give her a call for your intervention, please do some more upgrade (CEUs) in order to prevent ‘doing harm’.

Jerae
Jerae
2 years ago
Reply to  Richa

@Richa omg you said that SO WELL!! I know I watched this 2 months after most of you guys, but you are so right about this, and the truth comes out just like you predicted. Thank you for saying what most women recognized immediately except for the bimbos in that room and a few guys here.

Jerae
Jerae
2 years ago
Reply to  Bimal

@Bimal wrote: You have to admit that Andrew stayed so calm in that episode. He had many opportunities to react. I think Olivia and Jackson rightly point this out to Holly at the commitment ceremony. ] unquote He’s a motivational speaker that’s how he makes a living..”Calm” is what he does best, esp. at the opportune time. Holly is not versed in group think and eloquent speeches, shes like 99% of us in group settings, nervous and uncomfortable and not as pretty with our words. Olivia and Jackson..ah yes…they are just getting started..I won’t ADMIT anything positive (as you suggest… Read more »

Johnworry
Johnworry
2 years ago

How is andrew even a motivational speaker

Lily
Lily
2 years ago
Reply to  Johnworry

that itself was the first red flag for me.

Tami
Tami
2 years ago

The producer needs to stop giving abusive men a spotlight. It was disgusting to pick Holly to show up last.

Dev
Dev
2 years ago

LMAO….Check this out….Andrew didn’t throw Holly under the bus before she came with NEGATIVETY….Andrew threw Holly under the bus before she came with POSITIVETY….How’s that for a Brain F@ck?!?!?!?!

Peach
Peach
2 years ago
Reply to  Dev

What exactly are to trying to say or clarify??!

Melly
Melly
2 years ago

Holly and Andrew are BOTH a special type of crazy.

EnglishRose
EnglishRose
9 months ago

The other wives must have been told to give Holly a hard time. This whole episode seemed highly suspect to me. Andrew gets there first, turns on the sniffles, and wins everyone’s support and sympathy. Then Holly comes in last, obviously upset and distraught, and the women all descend on her like a school of piranhas. It didn’t ring true to me. I think Andrew is a highly intelligent, very dangerous person, not physically but definitely psychologically, and he knows it. He has the gift of using his words to manipulate people, and he employs it skillfully. How do you… Read more »

EnglishRose
EnglishRose
9 months ago
Reply to  EnglishRose

Domenica deserves a huge pat on the back for being the only one to see through Andrew at this point. She nailed him perfectly, saw right through his b/s, and wasn’t afraid to confront him. She went up hugely in my estimation after tonight’s episode.

VANESSA
VANESSA
4 months ago

Olivia is an idiot.

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